Queen Kwong and I shoot the shit about the symbiotic relationship between artists and listeners, the tradeoff between passion and paycheck, and what it really means to live "the dream."
Enjoyed reading this, y'all should do a Part 2 after the SICK thing starts up.
One of the things no one ever tells you is that when you start doing something for a living that you started doing for love (e.g. music, writing, etc) your relationship to it changes. Its a hard lesson to learn especially if you really care about what it is you're doing.
Enjoyed this! Just gotta say i'm a musician who's obsessed with music! I am rarely not listening to it, seeking out new music to discover (that's why I'm here!) and talking about it with other people :) I don't think I'm in a minority based on the musicians I know... I'm surprised to hear there are musicians who are not also music fans, but also i can understand it, from the outside.
thank you for this data point! i think on my end I should have qualified it that it seems that musicians aren't *new* music fans -- or at least aren't trying to keep up because they have even less time than the average person for that sort of thing. but music obsession is probably a prerequisite generally. having said that you wouldn't be here if you didn't want new music :)
I can't play a note of music and I certainly can't sing. Recently my eyes have been drifting in the direction of the acoustic guitar that my late friend, Sid, learned to play when he was in prison. There is a small chunk missing from the bodywork. I would love to ask him how that happened.
I would like to teach myself how to play, but the way I would want to learn is the same way I am currently teaching myself how to draw - by trial and error - and I don't know whether that's feasible. I have listened to so many songs. I would quite like to write one.
I wonder whether musicians who operate within certain genres retain a connection to music besides their own. Recently I listened to Rick Beato interview Alison Krauss. Her life is steeped in music - she was constantly bringing up performances by other artists and then the pair of them would go down these musical rabbit holes together. Krauss's roots are in bluegrass which still seems braided into a way of life in a way that other genres aren't really. That's a complaint I have about a lot of modern music. It's disembodied. It doesn't really seem to be connected to anything.
i think that they often do. i love listening to musicians talk about other musicians.
i also think that it is possible to teach yourself to do things by trial and error, but perhaps not to do them *well*. whether that matters is a different story.
SICK sounds amazing. I love this concept. One of my favorite things about the Newport Folk Festival (I go pretty much every year) is the community aspect, Folk family of you will. Young up and coming artists popping up on various stages, building audiences that way and making connections backstage that last. This sounds like the same concept, but with more possibility and reach. Love that.
Love this so much! Really enjoy this kind of interrogative conversation. Also looking forward to finding out more about Sick. It seems like a great idea.
First of all: the notion of writing about music because you can’t make it is too familiar! That’s why I used to make album artworks - just to get to be in the presence of music. But I still believe you could surprise yourself in the way of making music 👽
Also how do I learn more about SICK? I followed on Instagram and I wonder if there’s a way to find out more / join?
That gatekeeping behavior is prevalent in every genre unfortunately. I can relate deeply with alot of what you discussed. Having an office job outside of all this, makes the whole endeavor manageable and enjoyable in a wag that wouldn’t be possible if chasing sales and virality. Pleasure reading through this Gabbie!
Enjoyed reading this, y'all should do a Part 2 after the SICK thing starts up.
One of the things no one ever tells you is that when you start doing something for a living that you started doing for love (e.g. music, writing, etc) your relationship to it changes. Its a hard lesson to learn especially if you really care about what it is you're doing.
yeah this is always something my creative friends tell me about. usually with more craft related pursuits, but it must apply globally
Enjoyed this! Just gotta say i'm a musician who's obsessed with music! I am rarely not listening to it, seeking out new music to discover (that's why I'm here!) and talking about it with other people :) I don't think I'm in a minority based on the musicians I know... I'm surprised to hear there are musicians who are not also music fans, but also i can understand it, from the outside.
thank you for this data point! i think on my end I should have qualified it that it seems that musicians aren't *new* music fans -- or at least aren't trying to keep up because they have even less time than the average person for that sort of thing. but music obsession is probably a prerequisite generally. having said that you wouldn't be here if you didn't want new music :)
I can't play a note of music and I certainly can't sing. Recently my eyes have been drifting in the direction of the acoustic guitar that my late friend, Sid, learned to play when he was in prison. There is a small chunk missing from the bodywork. I would love to ask him how that happened.
I would like to teach myself how to play, but the way I would want to learn is the same way I am currently teaching myself how to draw - by trial and error - and I don't know whether that's feasible. I have listened to so many songs. I would quite like to write one.
I wonder whether musicians who operate within certain genres retain a connection to music besides their own. Recently I listened to Rick Beato interview Alison Krauss. Her life is steeped in music - she was constantly bringing up performances by other artists and then the pair of them would go down these musical rabbit holes together. Krauss's roots are in bluegrass which still seems braided into a way of life in a way that other genres aren't really. That's a complaint I have about a lot of modern music. It's disembodied. It doesn't really seem to be connected to anything.
i think that they often do. i love listening to musicians talk about other musicians.
i also think that it is possible to teach yourself to do things by trial and error, but perhaps not to do them *well*. whether that matters is a different story.
SICK sounds amazing. I love this concept. One of my favorite things about the Newport Folk Festival (I go pretty much every year) is the community aspect, Folk family of you will. Young up and coming artists popping up on various stages, building audiences that way and making connections backstage that last. This sounds like the same concept, but with more possibility and reach. Love that.
i was in love with the idea the moment she told me about it. it's just brilliant, I hope it really takes off
Love this so much! Really enjoy this kind of interrogative conversation. Also looking forward to finding out more about Sick. It seems like a great idea.
thank you so much Lou. this is encouraging and also hilarious. next time, antagonistic cross-examination!
Haha! I was trying to find a way to convey that you were conversing with purpose - but it does sound a bit threatening, I guess.
i am cultivating a threatening aura
First of all: the notion of writing about music because you can’t make it is too familiar! That’s why I used to make album artworks - just to get to be in the presence of music. But I still believe you could surprise yourself in the way of making music 👽
Also how do I learn more about SICK? I followed on Instagram and I wonder if there’s a way to find out more / join?
i think it's still in its nascent stages but I'll be sure to promote it properly when Carré is ready!
Sounds great, thank you, Gabbie! 🖤
Bring Queen Kwong to Iowa City and I'll buy you two dinner, ask, "So what's on your mind(s)?" and STFU.
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That gatekeeping behavior is prevalent in every genre unfortunately. I can relate deeply with alot of what you discussed. Having an office job outside of all this, makes the whole endeavor manageable and enjoyable in a wag that wouldn’t be possible if chasing sales and virality. Pleasure reading through this Gabbie!