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Alicia Clow's avatar

I’ve been having this discussion ever since the Michael Jackson documentary done by the two victims. I just can’t listen to him without thinking of the things he was accused of.

I think I’m of the mindset that there’s certain things I can look past and others I can’t.

You cheat on your spouse-not nice but legal.

You rape women or hurt children-you’re dead to me.

I’m a Gen X girl who danced a lot to Marilyn Manson and loved his music-but after everything came out I simply can’t hear his voice. Especially when his music represents what he is accused of-he basically told us what he was capable of when we thought he was just being edgy to shock.

I love that you brought this up. I have found this so troubling at times. Your article is terrific. I will restack and save. This is the kind of discussion that makes me love Substack.

PS I didn’t know about Prince 🤯

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Kevin Alexander's avatar

I'm squarely in the "artist isn't art" category, and even that's nuanced. Were Michael Jackson still alive, I wouldn't pick up any of his records, nor feature/review them. His actions were abhorrent. But that doesn't mean Thriller is any less of a record that brought incredible joy to millions. Both can be true w/o being intellectually dishonest. I associate R. Kelly's "She's Got That Vibe" with a very narrow time/place in my life. That doesn't mean he ever deserves to see sunlight again (he doesn't).

Everyone's redline will be different, and that's fine too.

Also: Nourished By Time's The Passionate Ones is a great pick, and I hope a lot of people see that and check it out!

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